Do you believe?

[ElectricBadger]

We have a limited understanding of things going on in reality; we also only interact with a very small number of dimensions (scientific proofs demonstrate the existence of at least several times the ones we see -- more in the 20's at least -- with the possibility there are in fact an infinite number). Each dimension sees things happening incompletely and imperfectly. Imagine removing our understanding of time, in the middle of a ball game. In a stopped image, we would see a ball hovering midair, and would be forced to conclude that gravity does not apply to small, white balls. Personally, I think we have the same view of the universe: things happen we cannot understand or explain -- and there are a great many things going on that we can't explain at all -- because we have imperfect information. My father in law firmly believes that humans span all these other dimensions, and our actions here -- and existence, or end thereof -- are only a small part of that which is Us. I find comfort there, and afterlife aside I have to admit that current science does solidly confirm we're interacting with reality in ways we have no idea about. So there is room for clairvoyance, telekinesis, and apparitions in all our mathematical models.

Personally yes, I have had at least one real experience: we're quite sure that my father in law's house is "haunted." On several occasions, various people have heard a woman open the door and enter, and call out a greeting "I'm hoooome!" I didn't believe it personally, despite several people hearing it on several occasions, one without knowing the story at all, until I heard it myself. Sitting on the back porch talking to the family, I heard the greeting very clearly -- enough to say, "I think that's Jenny" and go greet my sister in law, who I thought it was. On all these occasions -- including my own -- the dogs were the first ones to react, jumping up and racing straight to the front door barking greetings. So there's definitely SOMETHING going on, although random hello's don't seem terribly ominous.

[TomOfSweden]

things happen we cannot understand or explain -- and there are a great many things going on that we can't explain at all -- because we have imperfect information.

Me not being able to explain things is not the same thing as nobody can explain it. Not being able to explain something only means just that. That's why Universities have physics departments. Anybody believing firmly in anything while there are several simultaneous plausible theories with the exact same amount of proof, (or non-proof) suporting them is not very bright. I despise any closed minded fanatic making certain claims based on hearsay, (insert anti-religious rant).

I leave it for the particle physists and astronomers to explain the universe, because they are in a position to know where I, (or anybody else without the training) most certainly are not.

I used to be respectful of other peoples religions and not point out their problems because I thought it would make the world a better place. Now I've realised that, this is one of the major problems we have today.

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I used to be respectful of other peoples religions and not point out their problems because I thought it would make the world a better place. Now I've realised that, this is one of the major problems we have today.

Ok, not to challenge your point of view. However I don't know that by not pointing out the faults of others resulted in the worlds problems.

For if I understand some of the religious and political hot beds throughout history correctly. There are many that have been a result of disagreements to the point of conflict over who is more correct about a certian belief. I use the crusades as an example in this case. You can also cite the anti-abortion/right to life debate, which has a basis in religion.

Back the the thread of if there are or are not ghosts or an afterlife. Just because it can't be seen or proven doesn't make it not true even so. Lets take dinasoars for example. We find all these bones and such all over the planet. Does that mean they existed, or does that just mean that whatever benelovent being created the earth put them here to confound the scientists who refused to believe in a God of any kind? Who knows, and why doesn't anyone know. Cause no documentation has ever been found to state as much.

Do ghosts exist, do spirits exist, do souls of people and or things come and go throughout our existence? Don't know. I am not going to say they do or don't. I refuse to say they do or don't on the idea that if I claim such a thing, I must be able to show proveable evidence of such. I can't do that, so I wont.

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