Anti-American Protesters

[Ragoczy]

I apologize but I don't have enough faith in your intellectual honesty to pursue this.

Okay, so from my perspective this part of the exchange has gone something like:

You: "I think this video you've posted is ultra conservatives resorting to petty logical falacies [sic]."

Me: "There weren't any fallacies, logical or factual, presented by the makers of the film ..."

You: "No, the argument wasn't explicit. I still think it was there."

Me: "So provide an example, otherwise the statement is useless rhetoric."

You: "I apologize but I don't have enough faith in your intellectual honesty to pursue this."

A fallacy, by definition, is explicit.

Factual: Bob said X ... X is wrong ... here's the proof.
Logical: Bob said X and Y ... these do not make logical sense ... here's why.

You make a blanket statement that there are multiple fallacies then refuse to provide a single example of one. This smacks of demagoguery and perhaps it's you who should examine your intellectual honesty?

[Shwenn]

Okay, so from my perspective this part of the exchange has gone something like:

You: "I think this video you've posted is ultra conservatives resorting to petty logical falacies [sic]."

Me: "There weren't any fallacies, logical or factual, presented by the makers of the film ..."

You: "No, the argument wasn't explicit. I still think it was there."

Me: "So provide an example, otherwise the statement is useless rhetoric."

You: "I apologize but I don't have enough faith in your intellectual honesty to pursue this."

A fallacy, by definition, is explicit.

Factual: Bob said X ... X is wrong ... here's the proof.
Logical: Bob said X and Y ... these do not make logical sense ... here's why.

You make a blanket statement that there are multiple fallacies then refuse to provide a single example of one. This smacks of demagoguery and perhaps it's you who should examine your intellectual honesty?

First, logical fallacies are not explicit by definition. That is a patently false statement. I can use a logical fallacy simply by asking you a question.

"Does your mother know you are a pedophile?"

I haven't put forth an argument, I've not used formal logic. There is no syllogism, no Barbara, yet I've used a logical fallacy. And I've used one of the most famous ones, too.

Now, I feel that, if they had used that particular fallacy and I used that as an example, you would insist that I had no idea what they thought, they might actually believe the person is a pedophile so I'm completely wrong to say it is a logical fallacy.

Frankly, I don't have the energy.

I just get the impression that you will do whatever you have to do to contradict me or try to call me out. If one tact doesn't work, you just go find another. It's how you've been this whole thread.

That strikes me as intellectually dishonest.

Sorry.