Sex and Religion

[denuseri]

Well i never had trouble finding information on sex as a child,, and i was mostly home schooled. I had a very conservative Mommy to boot.

we often didnt have a working computer most of the time and lived off base in the local communities ussually; but we did have a public library most of the places i grew up in, as well as parents that had no qualms doing what parents should do, teach thier children about the world including sex,

i didnt need anything graphic forced down my throat by the state/school system to understand what sex and std's etc were about and i sure didnt need to waste time on it when i did go to school taking a class specificaly for it.

But hey i skipped home economics for the same reasons (i had a very good teacher at home)

I know not all children have good parents that taught them anything about the basics to being alive or procreation, and personally if your an orphan or fosterchild etc and raised by the state then by all means force feed away,

I personally believe this would be a non-issue if the courses on sex ed were "parent selected" electives in all highschool cirriculims, allowing those that did not wish to be assualted with such to educate themselves and or thier own children.

Unfortunately most liberal education systems and governments believe that the "people are incapable of self responsiability and or teaching thier own children and go to great lengths to keep such activities from occuring.

Churches and protestors of such things have no business disrupting schools with demonstartions when its the governement thats responsible. Thier time would be better spent attempting to buy off the politicians responsible for backing the legeslation. After all thats how the offending courses got put into the schools to begin with, (someone convinced or paid off a politician)

I know this sounds like i am against sex education...I am not, what I am against is the "State" forcing sex education on children whose parents don't want them to recive the "States" version of it.

As for the Muslim view on sex: oh wow i am so not going to speak here in detail lest i get banned, i will surely put some people off,

all i will say, is there are a lot of one sided miss-conceptions on what islamic people believe about sex and sexual awarness, and in the middle east there exists a certian duality as to what is allright for the public and what stays behind closed doors.

Its no wonder so many people hate or misunderstand the people of middle eastern descent or beliefs

Especially in light of the medias obvious propagandized western euro-centric portrayal of the islamic world being that of a over zealous mysoginistic movement full of criminals and backwards thinking thugs crushing thier wemon under an iron fist.

I will say this: Dont buy into all the sophist hype.

[Thorne]

Unfortunately most liberal education systems and governments believe that the "people are incapable of self responsiability and or teaching thier own children and go to great lengths to keep such activities from occuring.

More unfortunately, far too many parents have shown that they are incapable of accepting responsibility, either for themselves or for their children. That doesn't make it right for the government to promote what it believes is right above what the parents believe is right.

[Thorne]

all i will say, is there are a lot of one sided miss-conceptions on what islamic people believe about sex and sexual awarness, and in the middle east there exists a certian duality as to what is allright for the public and what stays behind closed doors.

Its no wonder so many people hate or misunderstand the people of middle eastern descent or beliefs

Especially in light of the medias obvious propagandized western euro-centric portrayal of the islamic world being that of a over zealous mysoginistic movement full of criminals and backwards thinking thugs crushing thier wemon under an iron fist.

People tend to hate and fear that which they don't understand. They also tend to hate those who are markedly (and sometimes even just barely) different from themselves. They tend to forget that those others will view them with the same fear and hatred, and for the same reasons: they are different.

We in the US, and in much of western Europe as well, tend to think of ourselves as enlightened, modern, civilized people, and we tend to think of the followers of Islam as barbaric, medieval brutes. They, on the other hand, think of themselves as devout, civilized and enlightened, and think of us a despotic, hedonistic, heretics. Who's right?

Sexuality in any culture or religion which is male dominated is going to be biased against women, simply because those men will have, to one degree or another, taken the reins of power into their own hands, yet cannot help but view the sexual attraction of women as a threat to that power. As women gain more real power, like they have in the West, men tend to lose that fear of their sexuality, seeing them more and more as equals, in the boardroom and the bedroom. Admittedly, even in this country, we are not quite at that point yet, but we are much farther along than most Muslim countries. And part of the reason that Muslim and Catholic leaders protest against sex education is that it demystifies female sexuality to some degree, allowing the young to see women more as equals and less as property.

[damyanti]

As for the Muslim view on sex: oh wow i am so not going to speak here in detail lest i get banned, i will surely put some people off,

I rarely buy into the hype...which is why I would love to hear you expand on this statement and tell your view...if it puts some people off...frankly I don't care much about people who get offended by an honest discourse...its usually just a faux outrage because you have a mind of your own and don't agree with them, lol.

I really am interested in what you have to say.


but if you feel so strongly about it, and if you have the time, would you mind pm me the answer